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Re: Kickstarter Proof Reviews Here

Post by sjaffe » Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:32 pm

Is it intentional for the charts on pages 158-159 of the Inv. Handbook be in different orientations? If they are on facing pages (i.e. both visible when reading the book) then if you turn the book sideways, one chart will always be upside-down.

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Post by bowman » Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:45 pm

InvH, pp. 103 & 105: The right hand column is ragged right. Actually it's looking like many of the push and following paragraphs following are ragged right throughout.
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Re: Kickstarter Proof Reviews Here

Post by Merijeek » Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:53 pm

sjaffe wrote:In the side-box on page 97 when discussing combined rolls, you state: "If he were to make two successive rolls, first against Mechanical Repair and then
against Electrical Repair, his chance of succeeding both would be reduced to 1%."



Of the four possible outcomes, only one is a success on both rolls so the player's chance of succeeding on both is 25%. And it doesn't matter what Harvey's skill level is in each, the answer comes out the same - 25% chance to succeed on both rolls because each roll is either a success on that skill or a failure.
You're wrong on this one. To pass the test, if rolled separately, the odds of succeeding would be 1%.

To pass the test, the rolls aren't related, but the outcomes are. To pass the test, both tests need to succeed. The first test has a 10% chance of succeeding. So we are already past your 25%. The chance of successfully passing the actual test, which is a AND of two 10% chances, is .1*.1, which is .01, or 1%.

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Post by mttrb » Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:37 pm

Keeper's Handbook, p19 - Dice Roll Variations, last sentence

The notation "damage bonus" or "DB" appended to attack damage reminds and players to add the...

should probably be (to match the Investigator's Handbook):

The notation "damage bonus" or "DB" appended to attack damage reminds the Keeper and players to add the...

Interestingly, the Keeper's Handbook uses double quotes whereas the Investigator's Handbook uses single quotes in that sentence.

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Post by mttrb » Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:54 pm

Keeper's Handbook, p23, final paragraph.

The dreaded Necronomicon, one of the Lovecraft's most famous creations...

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Re: Kickstarter Proof Reviews Here

Post by Magnus Nordlander » Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:15 pm

Stressed Chef wrote:Also on same page - 'Buenos Aires' is rendered as 'Buenos Ayres'.
This is actually the way it's spelt on both hplovecraft.com and the 2nd edition of "The complete fiction", both of which are fairly accurate, leading me to believe that the spelling is currently anachronistic but accurate.

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Post by Magnus Nordlander » Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:20 pm

Stressed Chef wrote:Inv hndbk p30 column 2 first full Para - 'eend' instead of 'end'. Is 'desarve' intended? Lovecraft's rendering of dialect is challenging to copyedit!
Both of these too are on both hplovecraft.com and the 2nd edition of "The complete fiction", so quite possibly it's intentional.

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Re: Kickstarter Proof Reviews Here

Post by sjaffe » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:24 pm

Merijeek wrote:
sjaffe wrote:In the side-box on page 97 when discussing combined rolls, you state: "If he were to make two successive rolls, first against Mechanical Repair and then
against Electrical Repair, his chance of succeeding both would be reduced to 1%."



Of the four possible outcomes, only one is a success on both rolls so the player's chance of succeeding on both is 25%. And it doesn't matter what Harvey's skill level is in each, the answer comes out the same - 25% chance to succeed on both rolls because each roll is either a success on that skill or a failure.
You're wrong on this one. To pass the test, if rolled separately, the odds of succeeding would be 1%.

To pass the test, the rolls aren't related, but the outcomes are. To pass the test, both tests need to succeed. The first test has a 10% chance of succeeding. So we are already past your 25%. The chance of successfully passing the actual test, which is a AND of two 10% chances, is .1*.1, which is .01, or 1%.

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I took probability theory in college about 30 years ago so my memory might be hazy on the numbers. HOWEVER, the sentence on that page is still incorrect. It says:
"His chance of succeeding both would be reduced to 1%". No. HIs chance of succeeding both is 25% - that's the chance for the outcome - succeeding on both rolls. Rolling 10% on the first roll and rolling 10% on the second roll may have a probability of 1% but the chance of success, is 25%.

In one case you're talking about the chances of making the rolls, in the sentence as written you're talking about the outcome. They are NOT the same thing.

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Post by sjaffe » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:32 pm

On page 61 of the Keeper's book, near the top of the second column, it says: "See 'Living Standards' on page 56 for more details". The page number is wrong - page 56 is a list of all the skills. Also, I couldn't find any section titled "Standard of Living". It's possible that you were referring to the information that's on page 46 in the table "Cash and Assets".

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Post by Magnus Nordlander » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:33 pm

I took the liberty of comparing the version of The Dunwich Horror to the one on hplovecraft.com, and found the following differences:

The text from the PDF is on the left hand side and the text from hplovecraft.com is on the right hand side.

Inv. Hdbk., Page 22: "seemed to inflict the visible cattle" => "seemed to afflict the visible cattle"
Inv. Hdbk., Page 25: "BibliothŠque Nationale" => "Bibliothèque Nationale"
Inv. Hdbk., Page 30: "Mis' Cory" => "Mis' Corey"
Inv. Hdbk., Page 30: "Thus starting on its round" => "Thus starting on its rounds"
Inv. Hdbk., Page 31: "and about 3 a.m." => "and about 3 A.M." (though it should probably be printed as A.M. in small caps)
Inv. Hdbk., Page 34: "Sheet lighting shimmered" => "Sheet lightning shimmered"
Inv. Hdbk., Page 35: "struck the haouse—not lightin’" => "struck the haouse—not lightnin’"

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